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SOLUTION: no audio in godel 2 years 2 months ago #1

Hi

Out of curiosity over the thread on the Ableton forum (I'm a Live user since V2) I just tried your godel, max for live version. I'm running Win 8.1 64 and also get no sound.

When opening in edit mode I get the following errors in the max window;

poly~: no patcher godelcore2c
poly~: patchcord inlet out of range: deleting patchcord
poly~: patchcord outlet out of range: deleting patchcord
poly~: patchcord outlet out of range: deleting patchcord
poly~: patchcord outlet out of range: deleting patchcord
poly~: patchcord inlet out of range: deleting patchcord
poly~: patchcord inlet out of range: deleting patchcord

I can't see anything amiss visually, although it seems that it can't find godelcore2c, by the message above. I have the standalone version also in my max search path and that works just fine.

I hope that might be some help.

Cheers.

m
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SOLUTION: no audio in godel 2 years 2 months ago #2

Yes, exactly 6, plus a few possibly unconnected multiple files in search path warnings.

midi_mme: error 1 opening midi input device 6- From MT Player 1
midi_mme: error 7 opening midi input device Ableton Push
midi_mme: error 7 opening output device Ableton Push
poly~: no patcher godelcore2c
poly~: patchcord inlet out of range: deleting patchcord
poly~: patchcord outlet out of range: deleting patchcord
poly~: patchcord outlet out of range: deleting patchcord
poly~: patchcord outlet out of range: deleting patchcord
poly~: patchcord inlet out of range: deleting patchcord
poly~: patchcord inlet out of range: deleting patchcord

^Those are the only red warnings.

I omitted the multiple files warnings as they all seem to be SVG duplicates, probably because I'm running Mac 6 and Max 7, I've kept Max 6 as Max for Live editor in Live. I've had a few similar things happening with a couple of of other devices, (patchcord out of range, deleting), I actually think there are still a few problems with 64 bit windows and Max that have yet to be resolved, it could just be that. Let me know if you want me to check anything specific, you might have to guide me a bit though, that patch is very complex and quite hard to follow at my level of knowledge. It is very clear and neat though, a lot of work!
Last Edit: 2 years 2 months ago by Martyn Ehm. Reason: removed them properly this time :/
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SOLUTION: no audio in godel 2 years 2 months ago #3

I was just posting all errors visible, I realise the driver errors are caused by a loopback system (MT Player) required by the PXT Live script, currently disabled. And of course Ableton has Push, so its unavailable to any other max based app.

I'm currently running on a Lenovo Y580 laptop, Core i7-3630QM @ 2.40 GHZ, with 8gb of Ram, Live 9.15 (Skipping 9.16 as it's problematic on some systems), a blank set with just one instance of Reaktor in a send channel. I'd be surprised if it was Ram, although given the way Live allocates threads per channel rather than object I guess it's possible. Never had a problem with maxing out ram before though, never really have problems with anything if I'm honest, not computer related anyway ;) This system runs very well, even with big track and effect counts in Live.

Interesting though. I just thought I'd try the max for live version to see what happened after reading that thread, if I were to make use of Godel it would really be just in Max as standalone, so it doesn't really matter to me on a usability front, I just thought I'd let you know what happened.
Last Edit: 2 years 2 months ago by Martyn Ehm.
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SOLUTION: no audio in godel 2 years 1 month ago #4

Yes, I have isolated the error and replicated the problem you are having. I hope to have a new download to fix this probledm soon.
Ernest
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SOLUTION: no audio in godel 2 years 2 weeks ago #5

Any update on the new upload? I've been waiting!!
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SOLUTION: no audio in godel 2 years 2 weeks ago #6

Same here!!!
No audio out from Live.

I hope you'll have a fix very soon.

Have a nice day.

Davide
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SOLUTION: no audio in godel 2 years 2 weeks ago #7

Well, as mentioned in the newsletter, a full release has got very complicated, as there are now 32 and 64 bit versions of both Max and Live; and most people are still on Max 6; and there is Mac and PC platforms as well. So the decision was to complete integrating some new features. Currently there is a demo of the waveset oscillators in alpha; and a few people have offered to help with betas; but I am not entirely satisfied with the filter gain over all parameters, and this week I am adding table-based gain compensation to it. This isnt easy, as the filter can vary continuously with pitch, resonance, and saturation, with mixed 2-pole and 5-pole outputs, and with mixed LP/BP/HP modes. I am close to completing this section, then I will be be building versions for the beta testers.
Ernest
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SOLUTION: no audio in godel 2 years 1 week ago #8

I hadn't spotted the newsletter! Best of luck with dealing with that mess, looking forward to the future, it's exciting stuff you're doing.
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SOLUTION: no audio in godel 2 years 1 week ago #9

A beta for Live is now available. I renamed all the files to unique names while testing, so I am pretty certain there is not another file version in the search path, which was why the Live v2 version did not work, but it hasn't been tested on anyone else's machine yet.

there is a memory leak in the 64-bit live compiler which crashed both my windows and Mac machines repeatedly. I will report it to Cycling74.
Ernest
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SOLUTION: no audio in godel 2 years 1 week ago #10

Hi there,
I've unzipped the file on my desktop, dropped the 64bit app into live and followed your instructions.
Nothing to do to hear a note!!!
I don't have any keyboard attached to my laptop and I'm using the laptop keyboard.
When I press the letters on the keyboard I can see the notes in your app coming red but no sound.
Please forgive me for the dummy question but when you say "Start the Live clock, so the clocked presets work"
you mean to press the black play button in the middle top of ableton live so to make it turn green
and see the time running?
I'm very curious to see it working!!!

Best,

Davide
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SOLUTION: no audio in godel 2 years 1 week ago #11

Well that is helpful, thank you. It seems there is still a problem with the Live build creating false paths. So instead of relying on Live's built-in path method, I made a small addition to calculate the paths from the 'thispatcher' absolute path, swapping forward and backward slashes as necessary, etc. I put it in Live and it works unless you unfreeze the file. The revised .amxd is in a small hotfix file in the Live download area on this site. I verified the same file works for me on both 32-bit and 64-bit Live, and on windows and mac versions. As it doesnt depend on where Max for Live moves things when freezing a file, it should work for everyone.

Yes, turn on the Live clock by pressing the play button (the right pointing arrow).
Ernest
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SOLUTION: no audio in godel 2 years 1 week ago #12

to play notes without the arpeggiator, make sure the DIRECT button, is green.

The STORED button stores the notes for the arpeggiator, which plays when the clock is running and the arp is on. Also the stored notes are restored the next time you open the preset.
Ernest
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SOLUTION: no audio in godel 2 years 6 days ago #13

Also I must apologize, I had not finished the Godel user guide, with other more pressing issues. I have tried to update it with a full description of how to play notes, with diagrams. (and also, incidentally, fixed the bbcode editor and preview feature on this forum).

Please let me know if there is anything unclear in it. It is here:

www.yofiel.com/software/mac-and-pc-apps/godel-3-for-live
Ernest
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SOLUTION: no audio in godel 2 years 3 days ago #14

It's been four days now, and no one has said that the 3b3 release either works or does not work, but there has been >100 downloads.

While waiting for any kind of response, I updated the website system software, so pages outside the forum load in <2 seconds, as does the forum after fist visit. The only thing is the bbcode toolbar disappeared again. bbcode works, but the toolbar doesnt show up. I filed a bug at the forum distributors.
Ernest
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SOLUTION: no audio in godel 2 years 3 days ago #15

Hi there,
I've just downloaded and tried it on Live 9.1.7
Well as soon as I press a key on the piano Live crashes!!!
You can't imagine how much I would like to play your instrument!!!
I look forward to hearing from you.
Have a nice day,

Davide
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SOLUTION: no audio in godel 2 years 2 days ago #16

thank you for reply. Due to spam this forum is moderated, which is why your message did not show up at first.

Most likely the reason it crashes is because the voices are set too high in the settings panel. Before playing a note, please try reducing the number of voices in the settings panel to, say, 4 voices.
Ernest
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SOLUTION: no audio in godel 2 years 2 days ago #17

Hi there,
I've tried reducing from 8 to 4 and it still crashes
so I've tried to reduce the voices to 1 and it still crashes so that's not the problem here.

I look forward for a fix.

Best,

Davide
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SOLUTION: no audio in godel 2 years 2 days ago #18

HI Davide,

Maxforcats reported the same issue,sothere is definitely still a problem. This week I have been improving this website's speed, and the forum app is now stable, although the editor's background colors are still hokey, and I havent checked the layout on all browsers yet. So I am going to get the website done first, then I will have another look at Godel. Sorry for the delay.
Ernest
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SOLUTION: no audio in godel 1 year 6 months ago #19

Hi,

Today I downloaded Godel 3 and followed all the instructions that came with the device.

However, good news! I am getting sound coming out of the device when I play notes on my MIDI keyboard.

I'm very excited to use this amazingly diverse synth, many thanks for this!
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